Guest Had Enough Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 On my first trip out in my new Hymer Behemoth Juggernaut (De Luxe) I had a nasty little accident. A steep hill leading from my home was being resurfaced and there was a pinch point where exposed ironworks meant the road had to be narrowed. It was barely wide enough for my 'van and I noticed a dirty upturned cone lying in the gutter on the right. I stopped, pointed to this cone and asked, using exaggerated lip movements, as the workman couldn't hear me, to have the cone removed. He shrugged his shoulders and waved me through after he'd spread his arms out wide in the universal gesture that signifies: "Come on mate, you can get a bus through sideways." So we progressed slowly and needless to say, my rear tyre caught this old cone and shoved it up into the wheel arch where it caused a lot of damage to the wheel arch cover and the skirt behind it. The eventual cost will be about £1200 for the repair and my costs in taking it back to the dealer. Fortunately I have one of these, http://www.blackvue.co.uk/ which I swap between my car and the MH. The construction company sent my claim to its insurer and weren't exactly co-operative and refused to admit liability. The video, with sound, persuaded the insurer that I had a cast iron case and they recommended that the construction firm pays up, which it has. I have no doubt that, without the video evidence, it would have been a "he said' she said' situation and I'd be £1200 out of pocket. I'm still waiting for the parts from Germany, but it doesn't stop me using the 'van and most people wouldn't even notice the bent metal work. The moral of the story? Get a decent dash cam. It could save you a fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billggski Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Might pick a plane crash or a meteorite as well. Could sell that footage for a fortune. A mate is one year into a disputed claim, video could have sorted out in no time, they are so cheap now as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Blimey Frank...........Surely your not advertising your mates wares on here (lol) ............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Has the cam got night sight Frank ? .... Positioned on the dash I'm guessing comes in handy for other stuff ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 antony1969 - 2015-02-06 4:45 PM Has the cam got night sight Frank ? .... Positioned on the dash I'm guessing comes in handy for other stuff ;-) I reckon a "DG" mode is essential ;-)............ http://speedlights.net/sigma-flash-ef-610-dg-super/ A quick flash and then HE's gone :D ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawcara Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 There was a subscriber to this site who sold dash cams, but I can no longer find the link. :-S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Hawcara - 2015-02-06 5:00 PM There was a subscriber to this site who sold dash cams, but I can no longer find the link. :-S Probably Frank in his previous life on here ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea Cup Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Hawcara - 2015-02-06 5:00 PMThere was a subscriber to this site who sold dash cams, but I can no longer find the link. :-SYou might find it was another forum, from where I bought mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Tea Cup - 2015-02-06 5:06 PMHawcara - 2015-02-06 5:00 PMThere was a subscriber to this site who sold dash cams, but I can no longer find the link. :-SYou might find it was another forum, from where I bought mine.Well HE has been about a bit ;-) ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artheytrate Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Also if travelling in Europe fit camera on to passenger side if driving with right hand drive vehicle, We drove to Benidorm last year with our brand new Auto Sleeper Broadway. On the second day of travelling through France we were on a narrow country road when looking at my sat nav I could see that we were approaching a very tight double Hairpin bend. I slowed right down to a walking pace as I drove around the first hairpin and a woman in an elderly Renault came speeding out of the other hairpin in front of me, I pulled over as far as I could on to the verge and stopped she ran down the side of our new van. The Auto Sleeper had a slight dent in the aluminium skirt a star graze in the rear wheel arch and green paint down the side this Tee cutted out. The Renault had badly damaged front wing and damaged headlamp, anyway when we came to look at the Dash cam recording there was no image of the Renault car at all, all's we had was a picture of the offside road and my voice saying she's hit us. The Damage to our Auto Sleeper Broadway was £750 repaired at Auto Sleepers factory. I'm now trying to Get my £450 excess from insurance, but they say if the French driver doesn't admit to it then I've lost it. John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawcara Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 The Damage to our Auto Sleeper Broadway was £750 repaired at Auto Sleepers factory. I'm now trying to Get my £450 excess from insurance, but they say if the French driver doesn't admit to it then I've lost it. John.[/quote If that happened in this country you would sue the other driver to get back your uninsured loss, ie the excess. It may be worth asking the insurance company to do this or consult a solicitor or someone on this site might tell you how to do it. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artheytrate Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Hawcara - 2015-02-06 5:22 PM The Damage to our Auto Sleeper Broadway was £750 repaired at Auto Sleepers factory. I'm now trying to Get my £450 excess from insurance, but they say if the French driver doesn't admit to it then I've lost it. John.[/quote If that happened in this country you would sue the other driver to get back your uninsured loss, ie the excess. It may be worth asking the insurance company to do this or consult a solicitor or someone on this site might tell you how to do it. :-D Cheers Hawcara. John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 artheytrate - 2015-02-06 5:29 PM Hawcara - 2015-02-06 5:22 PM The Damage to our Auto Sleeper Broadway was £750 repaired at Auto Sleepers factory. I'm now trying to Get my £450 excess from insurance, but they say if the French driver doesn't admit to it then I've lost it. John.[/quote If that happened in this country you would sue the other driver to get back your uninsured loss, ie the excess. It may be worth asking the insurance company to do this or consult a solicitor or someone on this site might tell you how to do it. :-D Cheers Hawcara. John. Hawcara has a point ;-) ..............put it down to experience :-| ................unless you want to spend the rest of your life taking calls from "Claims4U.com" *-) .............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 artheytrate - 2015-02-06 5:17 PM Also if travelling in Europe fit camera on to passenger side if driving with right hand drive vehicle, We drove to Benidorm last year with our brand new Auto Sleeper Broadway. On the second day of travelling through France we were on a narrow country road when looking at my sat nav I could see that we were approaching a very tight double Hairpin bend. I slowed right down to a walking pace as I drove around the first hairpin and a woman in an elderly Renault came speeding out of the other hairpin in front of me, I pulled over as far as I could on to the verge and stopped she ran down the side of our new van. The Auto Sleeper had a slight dent in the aluminium skirt a star graze in the rear wheel arch and green paint down the side this Tee cutted out. The Renault had badly damaged front wing and damaged headlamp, anyway when we came to look at the Dash cam recording there was no image of the Renault car at all, all's we had was a picture of the offside road and my voice saying she's hit us. The Damage to our Auto Sleeper Broadway was £750 repaired at Auto Sleepers factory. I'm now trying to Get my £450 excess from insurance, but they say if the French driver doesn't admit to it then I've lost it. John. This is why I went for a Dual Lens Dashcam. The second camera lens is a wider angle lens. Between the 2 of them, there is a large area visible when set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithl Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Hawcara - 2015-02-06 5:00 PM There was a subscriber to this site who sold dash cams, but I can no longer find the link. :-S It was AliB... http://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/view-profile.asp?action=view&uid=7927 If you look at his profile you'll find his website. Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peter James Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I used to have one, until it picked up a picture of a funny looking dude coming the other way in a Hymer Behemoth who smiled and bust my camera :-S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Peter James - 2015-02-06 6:42 PM I used to have one, until it picked up a picture of a funny looking dude coming the other way in a Hymer Behemoth who smiled and bust my camera :-S HE does appear to be a bit camera shy? :D .................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Come on guys, be fair,I don't think it is very nice to keep ribbing (or baiting?) poor old Frank when he has posted a sensible and helpful posting having just been unlucky enough to damage his newly beloved behemoth. I don't have a dash camera but it is worth thinking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peter James Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Tracker - 2015-02-06 7:08 PM Come on guys, be fair,I don't think it is very nice to keep ribbing (or baiting?) poor old Frank when he has posted a sensible and helpful posting having just been unlucky enough to damage his newly beloved behemoth. . So you recognize Frank 8-) I didn't know it was him, Sorry Frank ;-) - I've seen those Safe Driver / Phone number stickers on the back of lorries so I've got one to go on yours. It says 'If Driven Well Must Be Stolen, Phone Police' ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peter James Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I've got one of these for £9.59 that works OK: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111468833143?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT What must those crooks in the camera shops be making out of them ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artheytrate Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Peter James - 2015-02-07 8:30 AM I've got one of these for £9.59 that works OK: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111468833143?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT What must those crooks in the camera shops be making out of them ;-) That's the type I was using when the French driver ran in the side of our Auto Sleeper, as post above. John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peter James Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 artheytrate - 2015-02-07 8:58 AM Peter James - 2015-02-07 8:30 AM I've got one of these for £9.59 that works OK: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111468833143?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT What must those crooks in the camera shops be making out of them ;-) That's the type I was using when the French driver ran in the side of our Auto Sleeper, as post above. John. Was that a fault of the camera, or just the direction it was pointing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peter James Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 No doubt they all have limitations. Mine is usually, though not always, not clear enough to read a number plate, or whether I am a bit over the white line. And of course the incident may be out of its field of view altogether. But even the expensive static operator controlled CCTV installed on our streets is often not clear enough either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Peter James - 2015-02-07 9:30 AM No doubt they all have limitations. Mine is usually, though not always, not clear enough to read a number plate, or whether I am a bit over the white line. And of course the incident may be out of its field of view altogether. But even the expensive static operator controlled CCTV installed on our streets is often not clear enough either. I think you're right. These cameras range from quite cheap to quite expensive and the difference will be the quality of the picture. In many cases the filming of an incidence itself is enough, but at times it is necessary to be able to read number plates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artheytrate Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Peter James - 2015-02-07 9:24 AM artheytrate - 2015-02-07 8:58 AM Peter James - 2015-02-07 8:30 AM I've got one of these for £9.59 that works OK: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111468833143?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT What must those crooks in the camera shops be making out of them ;-) That's the type I was using when the French driver ran in the side of our Auto Sleeper, as post above. John. Was that a fault of the camera, or just the direction it was pointing? Hi Peter, I think the problem was that I was driving right hand vehicle with camera on drivers side, in future when abroad I will mount passenger side. John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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